Spydie
Finally made it
- Location
- New Mexico
Yes, it is, but it will be a 2022 model in the US. I have the 2021 model and it doesn't have the upgrades of the 2021 in India.
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Tried a 2021 Himalayan yesterday
- Thread starter DRugerH
- Start date
BurnieM
Well travelled
- Location
- Sydney, Australia
Nope its not.
The Indian 2020 model is BS6 (similar to Euro6).
The US/UK/Australian 2020 model is BS4/Euro4 with the new colours/new speedo graphics/new sidecover graphics.
The US/UK/Australian 2021 model is also BS4/Euro4 with new colours and ABS off and hazard switch that also appeared on the Indian 2020 model.
Roy Gavin
Well travelled
- Location
- Adelaide Australia
The 2021 models in India will be the 2022 modech threads into th
So if you try drill it out to 12 mm and get a 12.8 bolt and nut-----!
Mine has a 8mm allen bolt which threads into the inner side of the lug, with a locknut on the end, and you will break the head off the bolt before you make an impression on the spread,
So if you try drill it out to 12 mm and get a 12.8 bolt and nut-----!
These so called up grades will happen here like I said in LATE this year, my calendar is only showing today as only being the 2nd of April. If you don’t believe me, no worries time will telll.
I’m glad I bought my Himmy when I did it fits me perfectly, no ABS or Tripper navigation. I like things simple.
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imnvegas
Well travelled
- Location
- Las Vegas Nevada USA
I have no problem with standing on the footpeg...
Spydie
Finally made it
- Location
- New Mexico
Yes it is except for the emissions. Everything on our 2021 is the same as the 2020 Indian bike, including the colors. We don't have the new Indian Pine Green or silver that the 2021 Indian bike has (because ours is the 2020 Indian bike and we got the same colors they got for that year). Did I miss something? Or is the only reason you are saying "nope" is because the emissions are different? Ok, put the BS4/BS6 aside and then try it again.
Spydie
Finally made it
- Location
- New Mexico
"Late this year" is correct. It will come out in the fall and it will be a 2022 model, which will be same as this year's 2021 Indian model. It's the way it's always happened in the US for the Himalayan. And at the same time, the Indian market will get their 2022 and if it has any upgrades, we won't see it until our 2023 models the next fall. Mark it on your calendar and then come back to this thread and agree with it! LOL
I'm only 67 but I have the same issue. 30" inseam means I'm often having to tip-toe around. I use the foot peg to mount like others and don't figure it will be a problem as I'm only putting weight on the peg/stand for less than a second. I looked into lowering the bike a tad but the expence and compromise leads me to just suck it up and ride.
- Location
- The Pacific Nothwet
Db I'm 185 in my birthday suit and the side stand has no problems with me mounting up left foot on peg. Looking at it it's robustness is obvious. Over built imho. No doubt you think for your self and use best judgement.
Commen sense is becoming an endangered species and the way the world is becoming more and more litigious I'd overbuild and under rate EVERYTHING if I was a manufacturer.
Roy Gavin
Well travelled
- Location
- Adelaide Australia
I didnt have to think much , my bike leans over too far because there is wear/ failure in either the stand or the frame mounted pivot.
Without standing on it, after 38,000 km.
I did say the new stand looks strong enough, but I have no idea of the steel type, grade or heat treatment.
Usually the thicker the steel the lower the grade and everything is good and thick on the stand.
I have the replacement almost ready to fix, so I will soon know what has failed and let you.
Until then I don't think it is sense to assume anything or speculate.
Without standing on it, after 38,000 km.
I did say the new stand looks strong enough, but I have no idea of the steel type, grade or heat treatment.
Usually the thicker the steel the lower the grade and everything is good and thick on the stand.
I have the replacement almost ready to fix, so I will soon know what has failed and let you.
Until then I don't think it is sense to assume anything or speculate.
BurnieM
Well travelled
- Location
- Sydney, Australia
madbiker
Well travelled
- Location
- United Kingdom
I reply to the standing on the foot peg issue when getting on the bike.
As I travel fully loaded most of the time, this is exactly what I do when I get on and off the bike. As I am 5'10" inside leg 32" and weight about 13 st (180lbs / 83kg) I find it difficult to swing my leg over the rear of the bike with luggage on the rear seat/rack. I have now covered 25,000 miles (40,000 kms) doing this and have had no problems.
When I removed the stand to have the footplate enlarged at 11,000 miles I checked fit for wear but found none. There is some free play in the side stand where it mounts on to the lugs on the frame, even when the mounting bolt is fully tightened, and this seems me to be the way it was manufactured rather than wear or spreading of the frame mounting lugs.
As I travel fully loaded most of the time, this is exactly what I do when I get on and off the bike. As I am 5'10" inside leg 32" and weight about 13 st (180lbs / 83kg) I find it difficult to swing my leg over the rear of the bike with luggage on the rear seat/rack. I have now covered 25,000 miles (40,000 kms) doing this and have had no problems.
When I removed the stand to have the footplate enlarged at 11,000 miles I checked fit for wear but found none. There is some free play in the side stand where it mounts on to the lugs on the frame, even when the mounting bolt is fully tightened, and this seems me to be the way it was manufactured rather than wear or spreading of the frame mounting lugs.
Patandar
Total noob
- Location
- Chandigarh, India
I am 245 lbs and I mount and dismount using the foot peg. I have not had any issue so far and it feels totally safe. I have the BS6 2021 Lake Blue Himalayan.
I’m in my med 60s and I also mount and dismount using the foot pegs without an issue. It’s by far the easiest way for me for most motorcycles.
Roy Gavin
Well travelled
- Location
- Adelaide Australia
Finally got round to replacing my short and loose sidestand, and discovered why it seemed a little short and loose.
First, the hole on the support tongue / lug on the frame was worn way oversize , nearer 10 mm than 8mm.
Second, the 8 mm pivot bolt was all thread , so there was a fair bit of wear where it passed through the tongue. Replaced with a plain shank bolt, not a standard bolt and needed the threads cut and the bolt shortened a little.
Third, the yoke at the top of the stand was splayed out a little, both on the OEM and the replacement. Responded to being squeezed a little in the vice, didnt try using the socket head 8mm pivot screw to pull it in as it only screws into 6mm MS plate.
Fourth , both the bottom of the yoke and the tongue were noticeably worn where they meet to form the stop for the stand, the replacement stand did not rotate / point forward nearly as much.
Would probably have been best if I had drilled out the tongue and stand out for a 10 mm pivot bolt, but this would also require milling out the recess in the stand for the bolt head and I don't have the equipment to do that.
Still a little play in the pivot, but much less than previously and the new stand is adjustable so the length is Ok .
For now!
First, the hole on the support tongue / lug on the frame was worn way oversize , nearer 10 mm than 8mm.
Second, the 8 mm pivot bolt was all thread , so there was a fair bit of wear where it passed through the tongue. Replaced with a plain shank bolt, not a standard bolt and needed the threads cut and the bolt shortened a little.
Third, the yoke at the top of the stand was splayed out a little, both on the OEM and the replacement. Responded to being squeezed a little in the vice, didnt try using the socket head 8mm pivot screw to pull it in as it only screws into 6mm MS plate.
Fourth , both the bottom of the yoke and the tongue were noticeably worn where they meet to form the stop for the stand, the replacement stand did not rotate / point forward nearly as much.
Would probably have been best if I had drilled out the tongue and stand out for a 10 mm pivot bolt, but this would also require milling out the recess in the stand for the bolt head and I don't have the equipment to do that.
Still a little play in the pivot, but much less than previously and the new stand is adjustable so the length is Ok .
For now!
caferider48
Well travelled
- Location
- Carlsbad, CA (San Diego County)
Now I have to try something. When the bike is on the sidestand, can I mount the bike from the right side, placing my right foot on the right peg and swinging my left leg over to the left side ? That way placing my weight on the right peg, do I put less stress on the sidestand as there is an upward force now on it? And can I do it without falling on my ass?
I would say highly unlikely, this will almost certainly over-balance the bike. If you do try, make sure you have someone on the left side to grab the bike when it tips
imnvegas
Well travelled
- Location
- Las Vegas Nevada USA
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I mount the bike on the left like a horse and have no problems..but I think doing so on the right side will take the support of the stand...I would say highly unlikely, this will almost certainly over-balance the bike. If you do try, make sure you have someone on the left side to grab the bike when it tips
This will be fine, as bikes are designed to be mounted from the left... If I have the boxes installed, I mount my Himalayan this way despite being close to 250 pounds.
I am sure the stand will take the weight, but as you put weight onto the right peg and the suspension compresses the side-stand will almost certainly lift off the ground, removing the 3-point contact with the ground, making the bike unstable and very likely to fall over.
It will of course depend on the weight of the rider, but unless featherweight, I would suggest a great deal of caution is exercised
caferider48
Well travelled
- Location
- Carlsbad, CA (San Diego County)
I'm going to try and will let you know. My thinking is if I swing me left leg over quickly, it doesn't matter what the side stand does as I can then place my left foot on the ground, leaving my right foot on the peg and the bike upright. Since I am not placing weight directly on the side stand, but rather lightening the load on it from my right foot on the peg.This will be fine, as bikes are designed to be mounted from the left... If I have the boxes installed, I mount my Himalayan this way despite being close to 250 pounds.
I am sure the stand will take the weight, but as you put weight onto the right peg and the suspension compresses the side-stand will almost certainly lift off the ground, removing the 3-point contact with the ground, making the bike unstable and very likely to fall over.
It will of course depend on the weight of the rider, but unless featherweight, I would suggest a great deal of caution is exercised