New Himalayan FAQ Thread

OldGuy

Well travelled
Location
Seattle,WA
After a lot of frustration, I created a pdf of the most relevant posts from the Himalayn FAQ thread. I post it here in the hope that people will find it useful. Please feel free to use this in any way you see fit.

I am certainly open to adding and amending to this file. Simply post here or PM me and I will add to this file if it is relevant to the greater Himalayan community. The administration has agreed to keep this as a sticky so it can't get buried in irrelevant nonsense.

OldGuy

RE_FAQ_V2 : 7/31/2022 I've updated the FAQ paper with information on two things: (1) Fuel pump relay & 'safety' switch problems and (2) TPS adjustment issues. Seems like these two issues are fairly widespread and to the unsuspecting, a total f**ing mystery.

Note #2: Having just gone through this, the EBC part numbers in the pdf are correct for sintered metallic pads. If you go by the parts finders on Amazon and eBay, they don't show as being compatible with the Himalayan. EBC says they are, so I'd go with that.

RE_FAQ_V3 : 1/2/2023 Added a very helpful document from forum member Flicka showing torque sequencing and specs for almost all of the Himalayan fasteners. This is not my work, I simply attached the existing document to my pdf.

RE_FAQ_V4: 2/23/2023 Added sprocket ratio charts for ratios above and below stock. Also added part numbers for SBS ceramic brake pads (I highly recommend them!).
 

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kuri77

Getting there...
Location
Peyton, CO, USA
Hey Old Guy,
Another old guy here too. For battery cut-off switch do you have any recommendations? And could you put in a bit about electrical loads, as in how many amps/watts the machine will put out at normal revs say doing 55-60 mph (5000 revs or lower) on backroads and what would be available (after machine gets its cut) for accessories? Thanks for putting this together, it's going in my iphone.
 

OldGuy

Well travelled
Location
Seattle,WA
For the battery cut-off switch there's a post here about that. https://www.royalenfieldowners.com/index.php?threads/battery-issues.2113/#post-18900 I prefer the trickle-charger solution.

As for loads and all that, no, that's completely out of my jurisdiction. I've looked at the generator specs for the Himmy and made my own decisions, but as soon as I put that out there to the world, someone's going to blame me for any future issues. Sorry.
OG
 

Roy Gavin

Well travelled
No one knows for certain whether the claimed output of the alternator is the peak output or the continuous rating, so any advice is just a guess.
But if you look at the size, and quality, of the wiring I wouldn't be loading it up with much, if any, extra load.
FWIW most bikes these days claim two to three times the watts RE nominate for the Hima, presumably because they need it.
 

dabs

Well travelled
Location
Merseyshire
Thanks OG that's handy for a soon to be owner.

Are any Torque values available to add to the FAQ sheet perhaps ! or is another source available ?
 

Flicka

Well travelled
Location
Italy
Tires eligible for the Himalayan








The best 3 in the 80/20 - 60/40 range in terms of price-quality-performance ratio:

1
Shinko 705
75/25
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64H TT

2
Continental TKC70
60/40
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64T TL

3
Avon Trailrider
80/20
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54V TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TL


Other 80/20

Anlas Capra R Enduro
80/20
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54V TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TL

Kenda K761
70/30
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64H TL

Metzeler Tourance
80/20
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TT

Mitas E-08
80/20
A: 90 90-21M/C 54T TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64T TL

Mitas 24 INVADER
70/30
A: 90 90-21M/C 54S TT
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TL

Pirelli MT-60
80/20
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TT

( Credits to https://www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/)
 

Flicka

Well travelled
Location
Italy
The best 3 in the 50/50 - 30/70 range in terms of price-quality-performance ratio:

1
Dunlop Trailmax Mission
50/50
A: 90 90-21M/C 54T TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TL

2
Metzeler Enduro 3/Sahara
50/50
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TT

3
Continental TKC80
40/60
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54T TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TT


Other 50/50

Kenda K784
50/50
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64H TL

Heidenau K60 Scout
50/50
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54T TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TT

Mitas E-07
50/50
A: 90 90-21M/C 54T TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TL
 

Flicka

Well travelled
Location
Italy
Tires of which only the front is available

AVON AV84 TREKRIDER
50/50
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54V TL

BRIDGESTONE BATTLAX A41
90/10
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54V TL

Continental Conti Escape
70/30
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54T TL

Metzeler Karoo 3
50/50
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54S TL

Metzeler Karoo Street
75/25
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL

Mitas E-10
30/70
A: 90 90-21M/C 54T TL

Motoz Tractionator GPS
50/50
A: 90 90-21M/C 54T TL

Michelin Anakee Adventure
80/20
A: 90 90-21M/C 54V TT

Michelin Anakee Wild
50/50
A: 90 90-21M/C 54R TL

Pirelli Scorpion Rally
50/50
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL

SHINKO E-805 CROSSFLY DUAL SPORT
40/60
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54T TL
 

Flicka

Well travelled
Location
Italy
Power used to run bike vs power left over to run accessories




The stator produce 221 watts at 1500 rpm, 280 watts at 4000 rpm.

Always on:
Instrument Cluster + EFI + Fuel Pump + ABS
70 Watts

Front light
LED : Low beam 30Watts @ 2800 Lumen, High beam 45Watts @ 4000 Lumen.
H4 : Low beam 55Watts @ 800 Lumen, High beam 60 Watts @ 1200 Lumen.

Rear Light +Number Plate Lights
Led 5Watts

On demand:
Turn light............10 Watts x 2
Brake Light………..4 Watts
Horn…………………30 Watts
 

Flicka

Well travelled
Location
Italy
Himalayan Handlebar dimensions:







Bar Dimensions
Width / Dim A750
Height / Dim B90
Rise / Dim C75
Clamping Width / Dim D160
Sweep / Dim E70
Control Length / Dim F220
Dim G
Height / Dim Bv95
Mounting Diameter22.2 / 7/8







A=Width | B=Height | C=Rise | D=Clamping Width | E=Sweep/Pull Back | F=Control Length (All dims. in mm)



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Roy Gavin

Well travelled
Tires eligible for the Himalayan








The best 3 in the 80/20 - 60/40 range in terms of price-quality-performance ratio:

1
Shinko 705
75/25
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64H TT

2
Continental TKC70
60/40
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64T TL

3
Avon Trailrider
80/20
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54V TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TL


Other 80/20

Anlas Capra R Enduro
80/20
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54V TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TL

Kenda K761
70/30
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64H TL

Metzeler Tourance
80/20
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TT

Mitas E-08
80/20
A: 90 90-21M/C 54T TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64T TL

Mitas 24 INVADER
70/30
A: 90 90-21M/C 54S TT
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TL

Pirelli MT-60
80/20
A: 90 90-21 M/C 54H TL
P: 120 90-17M/C 64S TT

( Credits to https://www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/)
On the link you provided the best performing 80/20 was the Michelin Anekee Adventure, the Shinkos' only got in on price in the US, but in other places they are not a lot cheaper than the Michelins.
And some folks might just want the best tire and dam the price- like I do!
We have no problem getting the correct sizes in Oz, although I understand it might not be as easy in other parts of the world.
With a review like the Chapmoto it is probably best to just just post the link and let the reader form their own opinion and check availability and price in their location, what is the "best" choice will vary for everyone.
 

Roy Gavin

Well travelled
Power used to run bike vs power left over to run accessories




The stator produce 221 watts at 1500 rpm, 280 watts at 4000 rpm.

Always on:
Instrument Cluster + EFI + Fuel Pump + ABS
70 Watts

Front light
LED : Low beam 30Watts @ 2800 Lumen, High beam 45Watts @ 4000 Lumen.
H4 : Low beam 55Watts @ 800 Lumen, High beam 60 Watts @ 1200 Lumen.

Rear Light +Number Plate Lights
Led 5Watts

On demand:
Turn light............10 Watts x 2
Brake Light………..4 Watts
Horn…………………30 Watts
Meaningless unless you know the rating off the R/ R and if the generator output is the peak or the continuous rating, and you have already been asked that,
And no allowance foe any losses in the tiny wiring , across switches, etc, which will have to be accounted for.
 

BobJ

Total noob
After a lot of frustration, I created a pdf of the most relevant posts from the Himalayn FAQ thread. I post it here in the hope that people will find it useful. Please feel free to use this in any way you see fit.

I am certainly open to adding and amending to this file. Simply post here or PM me and I will add to this file if it is relevant to the greater Himalayan community. The administration has agreed to keep this as a sticky so it can't get buried in irrelevant nonsense.

OldGuy
Thank you for the very helpful information
 

BobJ

Total noob
You might want to add this you tube video on adjusting the throttle positoning sensor .
I did this simple adjustment on my 2022 and I no longer have any startup problems. I hit the start button one time and no more dying problem.
You just need a cheap multimeter, a number 25 torx, a needle with a thread on it so if drop it you can find it easily ( I used a unfolded safety pin because it was hard to push the needle in to make contact. Check out the video and see what you think.
 

Roy Gavin

Well travelled
Watched that Vid , he seemed to suggest 0.56V , others suggest 0.63 or 0.69 - any thoughts or authorized source for setting?
It would seem that the reading at tickover will vary depending on the position of the butterfly shaft which is set by the throttle stop screw on my carbed bike so should I be adjusting the TPS if I adjust the throttle stop?
 
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