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SG650 : NO Valve clearance adjustment in 1st Service !!

GsSgun650

Getting there...
Visited the San Jose dealership service centre and got the valve clearance adjusted. They adjusted it to be in spec. . I am attaching the notes mentioning the final values 8 mm intake and 18 mm exhaustView attachment 18394
This dealership also confirmed that Royal Enfield does not require vale adjustments at 300 mile service. But they also found that the clearance was not in spec 🙄
 

CiscoGoodDog

Well travelled
no valve adjustment until 6000 miles on a new bike. I am debating it.
I checked and adjusted the valves on the first service and some of the tappets were a bit tight. Just my opinion, but don't wait until 6K miles to check ;-)

FirstService_01.jpg The tappet clearances were inconsistent across the whole valve train :-/
 
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GsSgun650

Getting there...
Isn't the tire pressure supposed to be 32/36 on that bike? Or does the dealership assume a pillion?

Not sure I'd take a bike to the service center that produced that document.
Even back in India , the dealers always inflated the tires assuming a pillion as most people use the bike that way.
But here they should have seen that I removed the pillion seat and there is no way to have a pillion rider 🙃 .
on the Delivery day the bike was actually set at 36/45 !!!!

I am also thinking that i made a mistake by taking the bike to this dealer . They are the largest one for RoyalEnfield in Bay area , CA.
But while riding the bike back home after the service , I kept hearing lot of mechanical clatter which was not there earlier.
Earlier all you could hear was the combustion blast and the piston movement .
now it has a lot of kit..kit..kit...kit..kit sound as well . reminds me more of the old 350 cc engines with tappit and valve sounds than the sweet
and clean clean sound of of the 650 before service.

I have sent a video to the dealer and I am not riding the bike until they get back to me.
 

GsSgun650

Getting there...
Added ticky noises are good, they mean your engine is much less likely to blow up on you. Tappy tappets are happy tappets, as the saying goes.

Chances are your valves were too tight and during this service they put them back to spec, which causes those noises for you.
do you know how i can share a video here for review by everyone . the forum doesn't allow uploading videos
 

Milemar

Getting there...
Location
Belfast, UK
Yup, just collected a new SM and they confirmed no checking valves at the 300-mile service.
Would you advise me to check them anyway?
I don't mind doing this myself if anyone has a workshop manual handy.
 

Milemar

Getting there...
Location
Belfast, UK
He has the Meteor 350 and Interceptor 650 service videos. I assume that the SM650 has the same procedure as the Interceptor 650 due to the use of the same engine.

Am I correct?
 

Bazza

Well travelled
Location
Scotland UK.
Yup, just collected a new SM and they confirmed no checking valves at the 300-mile service.
Would you advise me to check them anyway?
I don't mind doing this myself if anyone has a workshop manual handy.
Hey there, You have a super meteor, right then. Tools you need are in your tool kit. Apart from a set of feeler guages. I found my clearanes to be rather tight at 400 miles.

1, remove seat. (hex cap screw to rear of seat if its a dual seat.)
2, remove securing bolt located to the rear lower part of the tank. ease tank back to allow access to the underside .fuel lines are awkward, some folk use a tool specific for high pressure lines. disconect electric multi plug from tank, and 2 thin rubber hoses.
3, remove coils, 4 x cap screws to undo, and 2 x electric plugs. Release brake lines from n/s clips on coil pack. ( some folk release, and ease the loom on the o/s.)
4, remove the 4 screws holding down the rocker cover. Carefully lift the cover, making sure that you do NOT tear, snag, or cut the rubber gasket. You may find it awkward on the left side where the 'half moon' may well be glued to the head. Gently does it.
5, lift the cover out through the left side of the frame, being carefull with the gasket.

Right thats the hard stuff.
Now the fiddly stuff.

6, Using the supplied tool (14mm allen with large nut) remove round cover fron left side primary cover, watch out for the 'o' ring.
7, remove spark plugs.
8, Using 17mm socket spanner turn the crank shaft ANTI clockwise, when viewed from left side of machine. (Some manuals sugest clockwise. WRONG)
Bring left side exhaust fully open, check clearances on Inlet, left side.
9, repeat procedure, only this time it's the inlet fully open, and check exhaust.
10, repeat for right hand side valves.

Inlet clearance should be 0.08 mm
Exhaust, 0.18 mm.

Replace round cover to primary cover
Replace/ refit spark plugs.
I used Blue Hylomar, a thin smear into the groove on the underside of the rocker cover, fit the gasket to the cover. This allows the cover to be inverted without the gasket falling, put a thin smear in the half moon on the head.
Carefully reposition the cover, without dislodging the gasket, from the left side, ensure half moon seated, refit screws. Do not overtighten.
refit coils and electrics plugs, reclip brake lines, and any loom dissplaced.
reposition tank, making sure the fuel line is fully engaged, reconect electric and 2 rubber hoses. lower the tank and and ease it forward into its housings. secure with bolt fixing,
Before fitting seat check machine will run, and that you are happy.

Other members may have alternative, or extra information. This is just the way I did it. (y)
Enjoy yourself.
 

Bazza

Well travelled
Location
Scotland UK.
Added ticky noises are good, they mean your engine is much less likely to blow up on you. Tappy tappets are happy tappets, as the saying goes.

Chances are your valves were too tight and during this service they put them back to spec, which causes those noises for you.
Strange how we still call them tappets, I haven't done tappets on anything later than My B31, 1954. :unsure:
 

smilespergallon

Well travelled
Location
Durham, NC
My tappets tap all the time. That's where the name comes from, the tapping noise which means they are happy. Most of my old VWs had solid tappets with shims and boy did they ever tap, especially when cold.

Or do you mean that none of your engines use lifters? Since tappet means the thing that rides the cam rather than the valve itself I can see the argument that any Over-Valve Cam engine would not have them, especially on motorcycles where OVC (direct cam to rocker contact) has become more common than pushrods.

Now that I consider someone else's views, you could also mean only solid lifters count. Since hydraulic tappets don't tap and therefore are they really tappets? A true quagmire of etymology and syntax to sink into, like the Lindow Man into his bog.

On still calling them 'tappet' though, I do still go out for either Sheetrock or Drywall depending on who sends me and I always just bring them back whatever random gypsum board I find much to their delight. Some terms are hard to drop once they're in your head, as a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
 

iowa al

Well travelled
Location
Iowa
Excellent Bazza! The only thing I would add is to turn the engine over by hand and recheck the gaps. I have to double check myself a lot these days.
 
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