Trip Planning Suggestions and Mistakes

Splinter

Well travelled
Location
Buenos Aires
Here in Argentina I take tips from the locals as to the best roads to travel on, mainly from a safety point of view and since I usually travel alone, I never ride long distances at night.
The roads are generally very good, but we talk to each other about various routes because many provinces/states don't maintain their roads very well. On a long trip, I generally plan to leave very early, say at 0600 and then plan to get to my destination at least two hours before dusk.
 

nmroadrunner

Well travelled
Location
New Mexico, USA
1. Choose curvy roads.
2. Throw any time-keeping devices away.
3. Be open to alternatives.
4. In any other country other than the U.S.A., plan on locals offering you hospitality beyond your wildest dreams.
5. Don't burn the locals.*

*Hunter S. Thompson - Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas: A Savage Journey To The Heart Of The American Dream
 

Wooly

Getting there...
Huh, it's alright for you, I have a fair old slog to get as far as the Salt Box Cafe before hitting the A515 to get into the Peaks! From this part of the world I look at about 300 miles for a Peaks round trip, 350 for Wales, and these are pretty much minimums. I have a day trip that takes in the Woodhead, Snake, Mam Tor, Wynatts and the Cat and Fiddle, the worst part is the 100 miles straight up the M1 to get to the start of the Woodhead.

This can be contrasted with a 'Sunday Hundred' to either Broadway and Fish Hill or Honeybourne that can be knocked out in 3 hours or so including stops without gpong loopy and having a look at the scenery.
You CAN do 300 miles in a day of course - but I’d rather not unless your hammering to Scotland or general motorway stuff
 

Andy131

Well travelled
Location
Manchester UK
"4. In any other country other than the U.S.A., plan on locals offering you hospitality beyond your wildest dreams. "

Going to MASSIVELY disagree, the half a dozen times I have been to the USA the locals have gone out of their way to make the wife and I welcome, fairly sure like any country it has it's share of grumpy gits, but come on, Americans in general are happy to help.

Not going to include the people at airport customs - they can be difficult
 

Roy Gavin

Well travelled
Don't plan the route, just have vague idea of where you might want to end up and perhaps visit along the way.
And then be prepared to change it on a whim.
You only need the most basic of maps for that - I still have the two bob Esso map of Europe which was all I needed to get around half way round the world and back.
Even with SWMBO navigating!
You can't get lost if you have no fixed destination, although sometimes you might not know precisely where you are.
And a big trip is no big deal, the Ozzie speedway riders who rode in Edinburgh many years ago drove up each year in their old Ford Thames van, with only short sea trip between Darwin and Singapore? as deck cargo on a tramp steamer.
And they managed to do it without a camera, phone, credit card or GPS.
Just a long day on the way to the office!
Over the whole trip 150 miles a day allows you to enjoy the trip as well as stopping anytime it takes your fancy.
And IMHO you never want to be chasing a deadline when you ride on public roads, for whatever reason.
I prefer to travel as light as possible, tent/ shelter only for when there are no cheap digs available, and in Europe most camp sites seemed to have cooking and laundry facilities and usually somewhere undercover to sling a hammock, so some places no need to take the kitchen sink.
GB pounds and US dollars seem to be universal currencies and are usually more welcome than a credit card, so a good stock of readies hidden somewhere secure and safe might be a good idea, dependence on plastic alone might be a problem.
Usually a good idea to have at least two to three times as much funds as you think you will need available to you, things seem to get expensive if you need them in an emergency!
 

Whysub

Getting there...
Travel light, just pack a couple of tee shirts, a couple of pairs of boxers and socks, and jeans, shoes and a fleece for when off the bike. In most parts of the World there are markets and shops where you can by replacements. Bin the old stuff.

We arrived back in the UK after a four week trip around Europe as far down as Greece, and Customs found it odd that after all that time away, we had no spare clothing apart from a pair of jeans and a fleece each.
 

Splinter

Well travelled
Location
Buenos Aires
Travel light, just pack a couple of tee shirts, a couple of pairs of boxers and socks, and jeans, shoes and a fleece for when off the bike. In most parts of the World there are markets and shops where you can by replacements. Bin the old stuff.

We arrived back in the UK after a four week trip around Europe as far down as Greece, and Customs found it odd that after all that time away, we had no spare clothing apart from a pair of jeans and a fleece each.
I agree with this entirely. Jeans, shirt, socks, toothbrush etc is all that's required, provided I don't let my wife pack my bag :)
I have journey planned from Buenos Aires to Puerto Madryn in Patagonia which is about 1500kms which I'd like to do with about 500kms per day, weather permitting.
It's gets very windy down there being almost in The Roaring Forties.
 

Woodstock

Well travelled
Location
Woodstock, NY
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Travel light, just pack a couple of tee shirts, a couple of pairs of boxers and socks, and jeans, shoes and a fleece for when off the bike. In most parts of the World there are markets and shops where you can by replacements. Bin the old stuff.

We arrived back in the UK after a four week trip around Europe as far down as Greece, and Customs found it odd that after all that time away, we had no spare clothing apart from a pair of jeans and a fleece each.
Completely concur about carrying barely above the clothes you are wearing and buy anymore you need on the way. And since I have become a wuss and prefer a hot shower and cable TV at the end of the day, I just opt for a motel or one star hotel. I'd still go to a youth hostel if need be. Fortunately, they do allow old people. I may not go too far off the beaten path now but age is just a reality and it is still all about the living.
 

ChampRoyal

Well travelled
Location
North Essex
Updating an old thread pants & T shirts could be purchased really cheaply (increased costs now but what aint) from the likes of Tesco F&F, Asda George all in nice prepacked sleeves which is the best way as they keep dry without bag liners (soft luggage). As Ive aged though I feel the cold and this time of year the adventure stores are starting to clear end of season and the snap hand/feet warmers can be a bargain and again take minimal space but can be a bonus
 

Stig57

Well travelled
Location
Wigan
I found doing 300-400 miles a day easy in the States but it's a pain in the UK. Here there are loads of fairly large towns and not as much open road. Keeping to a fairly constant 50 mph is difficult if you avoid motorways, especially in the north west which is one of the most densely populated areas of the world. Weirdly enough, 30 miles north and you are in one of the least densely populated parts of the world but with narrow twisty lanes so 30-40 is a max speed. I nearly always do round trips from home so I tend to limit my trips on the Classic 350 to around 150 miles total.
 

Andy131

Well travelled
Location
Manchester UK
Definitely doesn't work if the wife is with you, but then again the girls in Love Actually were not a patch on the Mrs.
Could be it was her that charmed the locals, rather than the tactless husband.
 

Splinter

Well travelled
Location
Buenos Aires
Say bottle after me...
Anyway, I'm taking one pair of Cargo trousers, a couple of boxers, a thermal long sleeve shirt (it will be cold further south), a couple of pairs of socks and a toothbrush/toothpaste combo. The rest (thermal longs and shirt etc) I'll be wearing under my suit of armour and food and drink will go into the saddle bags.
Bits and pieces can be squirrelled away in the back pack and everything gets taken into the hotel room for the night.
 
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