Tripper Delete and Tachometer Install

Ike208

Well travelled
Location
Boise, ID, USA
This is going to be a long writeup, so I'm going to break it down into several posts so that there isn't one massive post that I will inevitably screw up. My goal for this project was twofold:

1.) Get rid of the Tripper. I don't use it and I'm forever annoyed at the resetting clock.
2.) Install a tachometer. My tach of choice is listed in the link here, it's similar to the one Stig installed on his Classic but with slight changes.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WX7J9GT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

For starters, I removed the headlight assembly. This takes three bolts, two that pass through the shroud at 3- and 6-o'clock relative to the headlight, and a third tiny bolt at the bottom of the headlight assembly. With those bolts out, the assembly will slide out. There's quite a bit of wiring behind the assembly that I didn't want to unstow so I set up some crates to hold the lamp.

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Ike208

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Location
Boise, ID, USA
The Tripper and Speedometer are held to a black plastic piece that I'm going to refer to as the "dashboard" for lack of a better term. In order to free up the dashboard, you need to remove four bolts. Three are inside the shroud near the top of the shroud: upper left, upper right, and middle. Then, use a plastic prying tool to pop the Royal Enfield emblem off the front of the shroud to find the super-secret fourth bolt. With these removed, the dashboard can pivot up, not a whole lot due to the wiring but more than enough to do what we need to.

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Ike208

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Location
Boise, ID, USA
With the dashboard now loose, you can easily access the two bolts that hold the Tripper to the dashboard. With the bolts removed, follow the wiring from the Tripper to the 3-pin Sumitomo connector, pop it loose, and the Tripper should slide right out for you.

Huzzah! No more Tripper! Really, this is a G.I. Joe "half the battle" moment as I'm just glad to be done with it. The hole left over is a bit unsightly, but I have no doubt that even if I wasn't installing a tachometer I'd find SOMETHING to put over it: funny sticker, little mascot, whatever.

Now, with it gone, it's time to test-fit the tachometer.

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Ike208

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Location
Boise, ID, USA
The tachometer comes with a V-shaped mounting bracket, I did a test-fit utilizing some somewhat chunky hardware from the local hardware store. All in all it doesn't look AWFUL, but I'm interested in mounting it a bit closer to the speedo. There is enough room on the bracket to drill another hole above the one used in this picture, I'm going to drill that extra hole, grind the bracket down for best fit, and spray-paint the bracket black before final installation.

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Ike208

Well travelled
Location
Boise, ID, USA
Now, back to that Sumitomo connector the Tripper used! In order to make the tachometer function fully, I'd need three connections: always hot, accessory hot, and ground. I could get by with just the latter two, but the tach has a clock that would reset each time without the "always hot" lead, and a forever-resetting clock is one of the things that chapped my butt about the Tripper in the first place!

I was worried about finding the right wires in the bird's nest of wiring behind the headlight, what size wire taps to use, worrying about screwing up the wiring to something important, and so on. BUT, pecking around at the 3-pin Sumitomo connector with my multimeter shows it has, you guessed it, all three leads I need to wire up the tach! Boomsauce! I was both thrilled and confused: if the Tripper gets juice directly from the battery, why the heck does the clock need to reset every time you turn the key?!?!

And this is where the project sits at the moment. I closed everything up, took a test ride to make sure to make sure I didn't pinch any wires or anything similar. I've ordered some of what I'm pretty sure are the right connectors, but I need to wait 2-3 weeks for them to arrive from China (to this day I mourn the day Radio Shack went out of business). When the connectors arrive I'll try to get the tach wired up to one of them and plug them in. If that all works, all I'll have to worry about is wrapping the tachometer signal wire. Worst case scenario, if I can't find the right connectors, I could cut the one off the Tripper and use it but I'm always a fan of backward-compatibility. I don't expect to do anything that can't be undone to put it back to stock condition if I end up not liking the tachometer or sell the bike, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Here's my question for you all in the meantime: what is the wire color convention for RE? I can tell from testing with my multimeter that I have the three leads I need, but I can't test with the meter and see what wires I'm checking at the same time because the wiring behind the headlight is so tightly secured. From looking at the Tripper I can see white/red/black, anybody have any leads on which is which (pun intended)?

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Lakesrider

Getting there...
Location
Cumbria
I have a wiring diagram for the 350 Meteor and it appears that red is any live wire that is not switched such as feeds from the battery into fuseboxes and output from the regulator and the live feed to the ignition switch etc. White is used mainly as an ignition switched live such as to feed from the fusebox to the brake light switches and indicator flasher unit. It's not used a lot as a solid colour on it's own. Black is generally ground. On the attached diagram the tripper is top LH corner annotated 'Display Device'.
 

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Stig57

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Location
Wigan
Interesting pics ! The 3 way Tripper connector you have is totally different to the 6 way type used on the Classic. It would have made life a lot easier if the Classic used the same connector.
 

Scrambler06

Total noob
Location
Indiana, USA
I have a wiring diagram for the 350 Meteor and it appears that red is any live wire that is not switched such as feeds from the battery into fuseboxes and output from the regulator and the live feed to the ignition switch etc. White is used mainly as an ignition switched live such as to feed from the fusebox to the brake light switches and indicator flasher unit. It's not used a lot as a solid colour on it's own. Black is generally ground. On the attached diagram the tripper is top LH corner annotated 'Display Device'.
Thanks for sharing the wiring diagram of the Meteor 350. It will come in handy as reference for the Scram
 

Ike208

Well travelled
Location
Boise, ID, USA
Do you need the Scram wiring diagram? I have that.
While I think I got a start with the information above from Lakesrider, as a former engineer I'm always a fan of MORE DATA and a wiring diagram seems like a great thing to tuck away for a rainy day, I'll happily take it if you have it.

Many thanks, sir!

ETA: brief update, the connectors are (finally) here and appear to be the correct ones! Idaho is a very outdoorsy place but every trail, campsite, and lake is going to be overrun during the coming holiday weekend, so I'm planning on doing the opposite of everyone else and staying in to complete the next service and finish this project. Fingers crossed!
 

Ike208

Well travelled
Location
Boise, ID, USA
All right, back at it! I just wrapped up about a seven hour session of fiddling, and I'm finally done!

I started by building a little test fitting to make sure I had the wire designations (always hot, accessory hot, and ground) correct. It also gave me a chance to freshen up my soldering skills, but in reality soldering wasn't necessary if you didn't want to do that. YouTube showed me how to wire up the Sumitomo connectors. Having the connector with three longer leads on it let me be really sure what I was checking with my multimeter and it proved the info from Lakesrider and McQueen was right: red was always hot, white was accessory hot, and black is ground. (pic of testing rig included)

Then, I wired up the tachometer to a plug that matched the tach's wiring to that for the Scram. Of course, the colors weren't the same so I checked, and checked, and checked again before finally plugging it in to see if it'd work. (pic included)

Then, just to keep it interesting, I wasted about two hours. I did this by pulling the tank and wrapping the signal lead around the HT lead to the spark plug, putting the tank back on, and finding the readings were very low. So, I pulled the tank again and added extra wraps, and after putting the tank back on again there was no change. SO, off comes the tank yet again and I spend some time digging around the wiring diagram and figure out a way to tap into the ignition coil instead. Tank back on, fire it up, and NO CHANGE the reading is still way lower than what the C-reader is telling me. Quoting Chris Knight from the amazing 80s flick Real Genius "but then, in the midst of my preparations for hari-kiri, it came to me." I'd forgotten to adjust the tach for the thumper's 2revolutions-1spark sequence! I imagine I would have been fine with the original wraps on the HT lead if I hadn't been such a bonehead. But with it hooked up to the ignition coil, and that actually being the best source for the signal, I called it good and left it be.

With the tank back on (again) it was time to finish mounting the unit. I really didn't like the way the unit sat with the v-shaped mounting bracket included with it, so in one of the pictures below you'll see how I cobbled together a bracket with some steel sheet and a couple bolts. The bolts needed to be secured with JB Weld as the heads aren't accessible once the bracket is mounted to the tach (see included pic). I also included a couple rubber/metal bumper thingys I found at the hardware store to help the unit sit off the dashboard enough that I could still reach the programming buttons on the back of the tach once it was mounted. The JBWeld-ed bolts went through the mounting holes originally used by the Tripper, for a perfect fit. The long studs pictured needed to be cut off once secured.

With everything mounted, it was just a matter of tucking away the wiring and remounting the headlight. A brief test-ride shows everything works bomber and I'm VERY happy with how the install looks. I really think it looks stock, like it was this way from the factory. I've included a pic of the final results, I know the clocks are off by a minute (it bugs me too) but I'll get that hammered out later.

For those considering such a project: it was a fun and satisfying project but dang, it took some WORK. I really envy the Classic folks who apparently have a plug-and-play tachometer kit coming from Hitchcock's soon. The exploration and deciding how to proceed, waiting for the connectors, wiring everything up, brainstorming how to build the mounting bracket, and getting everything finally assembled took some serious time and many trips to the local hardware. Give 'er a go if you fancy it, but keep in mind this isn't going to be a "quickie project" that's done in short time.


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Geezer

Well travelled
Location
Wolverhampton UK
All right, back at it! I just wrapped up about a seven hour session of fiddling, and I'm finally done!

I started by building a little test fitting to make sure I had the wire designations (always hot, accessory hot, and ground) correct. It also gave me a chance to freshen up my soldering skills, but in reality soldering wasn't necessary if you didn't want to do that. YouTube showed me how to wire up the Sumitomo connectors. Having the connector with three longer leads on it let me be really sure what I was checking with my multimeter and it proved the info from Lakesrider and McQueen was right: red was always hot, white was accessory hot, and black is ground. (pic of testing rig included)

Then, I wired up the tachometer to a plug that matched the tach's wiring to that for the Scram. Of course, the colors weren't the same so I checked, and checked, and checked again before finally plugging it in to see if it'd work. (pic included)

Then, just to keep it interesting, I wasted about two hours. I did this by pulling the tank and wrapping the signal lead around the HT lead to the spark plug, putting the tank back on, and finding the readings were very low. So, I pulled the tank again and added extra wraps, and after putting the tank back on again there was no change. SO, off comes the tank yet again and I spend some time digging around the wiring diagram and figure out a way to tap into the ignition coil instead. Tank back on, fire it up, and NO CHANGE the reading is still way lower than what the C-reader is telling me. Quoting Chris Knight from the amazing 80s flick Real Genius "but then, in the midst of my preparations for hari-kiri, it came to me." I'd forgotten to adjust the tach for the thumper's 2revolutions-1spark sequence! I imagine I would have been fine with the original wraps on the HT lead if I hadn't been such a bonehead. But with it hooked up to the ignition coil, and that actually being the best source for the signal, I called it good and left it be.

With the tank back on (again) it was time to finish mounting the unit. I really didn't like the way the unit sat with the v-shaped mounting bracket included with it, so in one of the pictures below you'll see how I cobbled together a bracket with some steel sheet and a couple bolts. The bolts needed to be secured with JB Weld as the heads aren't accessible once the bracket is mounted to the tach (see included pic). I also included a couple rubber/metal bumper thingys I found at the hardware store to help the unit sit off the dashboard enough that I could still reach the programming buttons on the back of the tach once it was mounted. The JBWeld-ed bolts went through the mounting holes originally used by the Tripper, for a perfect fit. The long studs pictured needed to be cut off once secured.

With everything mounted, it was just a matter of tucking away the wiring and remounting the headlight. A brief test-ride shows everything works bomber and I'm VERY happy with how the install looks. I really think it looks stock, like it was this way from the factory. I've included a pic of the final results, I know the clocks are off by a minute (it bugs me too) but I'll get that hammered out later.

For those considering such a project: it was a fun and satisfying project but dang, it took some WORK. I really envy the Classic folks who apparently have a plug-and-play tachometer kit coming from Hitchcock's soon. The exploration and deciding how to proceed, waiting for the connectors, wiring everything up, brainstorming how to build the mounting bracket, and getting everything finally assembled took some serious time and many trips to the local hardware. Give 'er a go if you fancy it, but keep in mind this isn't going to be a "quickie project" that's done in short time.


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That looks neat👍
 

McQueen216

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Location
PacNW
Wow, this took way too long to get to - needed to head to see an aging parent out of town and... well, I am sure we all know how that can be. Attached is the Scram 411 Wiring Diagram section from the Royal Enfield Service Manual EURO V

The wiring diagram section out of the Euro V service manual... I ran OCR on it, although no, I have not gone through and checked every word to ensure that it all actually makes sense. It's vastly better than when I was given it - a mass of pages, all images, some bookmarks, though haphazardly done, impossible to navigate with them, etc.
 

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McQueen216

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Location
PacNW
Attached is the Scram 411 Wiring Diagram section from the Royal Enfield Service Manual EURO V
Hey, @Ike208 - let me know if there are / were errors with the wiring diagram, with what you found, or are things worth annotating on the PDF, and I can annotate and update the PDF and re-upload it. I have zero... zero issues doing that. Zeeeeeeero. I'll happily annotate and provide citation for it, so that if the document then wanders, folks would know why the citations are there and that it's not a RE comment (and would include a date, for an as-of).
 

Stig57

Well travelled
Location
Wigan
That is similar to the Classic 350. You could take the tacho signal from the coil white/red wire.
 
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