Engine goes off when I change gear from N to 1

[Joerg]

The himmie is fresh from the factory. Sometimes I can change gears after starting it in gear N without the engine stopping, but mostly it doesn't work anymore. I had done some minor work on the himmie like attaching a GPS and I had looked at the wiring under seat. But I cannot find any loose connectors. Looks like a sensor issue. Something decides that the bike is not in the right gear to run the engine. As if it had not bern started. Video available. youtube demo

 

[Robert]

Seems like the clutch doesn't come completely free? Maybe try and adjust the clutch cable on the RH side of the engine?

 

[Joerg]

Tried that. Clutch is very tight now. Can hear the click inside the clutch when I pull it. Even bridged the grey and the black wire in the connector to the clutch. It's not the clutch. It's not the side post too, sensor piston works well.

 

[Joerg]

Thanks for the hint anyway!

 

[Joerg]

the engine does not stop when I pull the clutch, but when I change the gear. In order to narrow the problem it would help to understand which entity decides that and how the information about which gear is set, goes there...

 

[SteveS]

I've been having the same issue when down shifting to first gear. Happened twice yesterday. I was told to give it more gas when switching gears. I've also been "riding" clutch when down shifting. probably not a good practice. My bike is garaged and used only for commuting.

 

[Joerg]

thanks for the info. I intuitively tried the 'more gas' approach myself. Does not help in my case. My vendor is remotely (corona-style) looking for a solution in the handbook. I'll post it here, once we have it.

 

[SteveS]

I just saw your video, looks like it might be the sensor near the kick stand that shuts the engine off when deployed. Could it be sticking? Will it shut off in second gear?

 

[SteveS]

We'll be waiting for the reply. Hope it get solved.

 

[ChArj_Himalayan]

side stand switch probably...? check that sounds like a text book example.

 

[ChArj_Himalayan]

I've been having the same issue when down shifting to first gear. Happened twice yesterday. I was told to give it more gas when switching gears. I've also been "riding" clutch when down shifting. probably not a good practice. My bike is garaged and used only for commuting.

How long is you commute? Is your bike fully warmed up, and you have been riding for a while before it does that? Most Himalayan owners have this issues with stalling. Mine does that too sometimes, more often in the first 5-10mins of riding, and sometimes randomly while downshifting or coming to a stop.

 

[Joerg]

side stand switch probably...? check that sounds like a text book example.

side stand sensor moves freely and I can here the click when I move it manually. I even detached that sensor.

 

[Joerg]

I just saw your video, looks like it might be the sensor near the kick stand that shuts the engine off when deployed. Could it be sticking? Will it shut off in second gear?

It's not the sensor at the side stand and it makes no difference if I shift from N to 1 or 2.

 

[Joerg]

How exactly can the display know which gear is set? I don't see a cable coming out of the gearbox...

 

[pompadom]

The gear position sensor is electronic and the wiring is run along the main cable loom. That's why you can't see the cable. From your video, it's either the clutch switch. Have a look around the left-hand switchgear. Mine did the same after fitting non-standard handguards. The cables were too tight after fitting. I bet if you remove the handguards and the other thing that looks like a sat nav holder your problem with disappear.

 

[Joerg]

I would have loved to loose that bet. removed all, even (in this video) bridged the connector.

 

[pompadom]

Seeing the new video, it's got to be something going wrong with the side stand switch. There is no other reason for it to cut out whilst selecting gears

 

[Joerg]

Seeing the new video, it's got to be something going wrong with the side stand switch. There is no other reason for it to cut out whilst selecting gears

Thanks. Have checked that already. Moves nicely. I can hear the click when I move it manually. I even unplugged the cable going down there ( near the cylinder). It's something odder...

 

[pompadom]

Think you need the dealer as it's still under warranty or a good motor electrician.

 

[TN_twowheeladdict]

With the kickstand up (stowed), the bike in gear, and the clutch lever pulled in, turn on the bike and listen for the fuel pump to prime. If it does, hit the starter. Does it turn over or is it locked out?

I'm thinking it is the sidestand switch circuit. The switch may be good so trace the wires to where they go. I had a bike that had a connector for the side stand switch under a side cover that had come loose just enough to lose the connection.