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What have you done to or how's your Scram 411 recently?

Gerhard Anniefield

Finally made it
Location
Germany
A good idea
But was the effort successful or didn't it bring the expected / hoped for result?

What material did you use? Something heavy like a bitumen plate?

Like the way you painted it black, definitely something I will copy ;)
 

Gerhard Anniefield

Finally made it
Location
Germany
Has anybody installed a set of two-point-of-connection hand proctectors like Bark Busters or something similar? I have a pair of the RE hand protectors (same ones Gerhard has in his pics above) and while they were awesome for keeping my hands warmer in the winter, no matter how hard I tightened the end bolts it's clear they're just going to pivot out of the way in a drop, leaving the levers exposed. The only issue I can see is my example of the Scram has precious little space between where the levers/switchgear end and the curve of the bar begins, so I'm wondering if I'll be able to wedge the mount in there or not.

I figure if I'm going to be exploring off paved roads this summer, this is something I should invest in, either this or carry spare levers and get good at changing them in the field.
Strange, I have no problem at all with the originals. They are very good fastened. What if you try to wind some tape over the part that goes inside handlebar and then fix them?
 

Gerhard Anniefield

Finally made it
Location
Germany
Strange, I have no problem at all with the originals. They are very good fastened. What if you try to wind some tape over the part that goes inside handlebar and then fix them?
Did you place the rubber part's that goes into the handlebar in the right way? The nut should point to the middle, otherwise the rubber won't expand inside.
 

2LZ

Well travelled
Location
Volcano, CA
A good idea
But was the effort successful or didn't it bring the expected / hoped for result?

What material did you use? Something heavy like a bitumen plate?

Like the way you painted it black, definitely something I will copy ;)
I would say after putting on another 85 miles today, yep, it did help some. Most bash plates either have a hum and or reflect sound upward. I can see this one definitely reflecting as it hangs out far from the motor.
I've been chasing this annoying noise, about mid-throttle, uphill. I haven't been pushing it hard due to break-in, but there's a noise that sounds almost piston-slappish at certain throttle positions. Driving me NUTS! I know the bike is still tight, and bone-stock quiet, which will expose every tick and whirl the motor makes. I'm hoping after I do dht service and valve adjust, this will quiet down......unless this is just a sound these motors make.
 

Ike208

Well travelled
Location
Boise, ID, USA
Strange, I have no problem at all with the originals. They are very good fastened. What if you try to wind some tape over the part that goes inside handlebar and then fix them?
Huh. Rather than the expanding plug, my handlebars have a permanently placed threaded portion that the bolt threads into. I expected some sort of expanding plug or collar as well when I first removed the bar-end weights and spent quite a bit of time hammering before I realized it was just threaded at the end.

I mean, I can get them pretty tight, you're right about that. But I also have no doubt that if I drop the bike on one of them, they'll pivot.
 

Gerhard Anniefield

Finally made it
Location
Germany
I would say after putting on another 85 miles today, yep, it did help some. Most bash plates either have a hum and or reflect sound upward. I can see this one definitely reflecting as it hangs out far from the motor.
I've been chasing this annoying noise, about mid-throttle, uphill. I haven't been pushing it hard due to break-in, but there's a noise that sounds almost piston-slappish at certain throttle positions. Driving me NUTS! I know the bike is still tight, and bone-stock quiet, which will expose every tick and whirl the motor makes. I'm hoping after I do dht service and valve adjust, this will quiet down......unless this is just a sound these motors make.
Okay, will try to do it myself also in the future. About the noise you are right, at certain rev's you may think the piston or other parts will leave it's 'body' . You mean a hard somewhat metal sound like using a hammer on a piece of metal. My Scram makes the same noise and my girlfriend's Meteor 350 Dito. So I think it's normal and we have to get used to it.
I have it more or less under control by avoiding those high rev's. Maybe there's a thread in this forum about what noises are normal?
Greetings from Germany.
 
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Gerhard Anniefield

Finally made it
Location
Germany
Huh. Rather than the expanding plug, my handlebars have a permanently placed threaded portion that the bolt threads into. I expected some sort of expanding plug or collar as well when I first removed the bar-end weights and spent quite a bit of time hammering before I realized it was just threaded at the end.

I mean, I can get them pretty tight, you're right about that. But I also have no doubt that if I drop the bike on one of them, they'll pivot.
Correct the nut in the handle bars are fixed that's why you can't use the weights anymore. Still mine are fastened like a house.
Wish you good luck on finding replacement's
Greetings from Germany
 

Gerhard Anniefield

Finally made it
Location
Germany
Correct the nut in the handle bars are fixed that's why you can't use the weights anymore. Still mine are fastened like a house.
Wish you good luck on finding replacement's
Greetings from Germany
Hey, found something: SW-MOTECH KOBRA HANDPROTEKTOREN-KIT ROYAL ENFIELD HIMALAYAN (18-21)
Look damn good, better as those huge RE originals, 2 point fixation. Should fit I guess. Just Google the text. Hope you can get them over there. Otherwise we can arrange something with shipping if you want
Gerhard
 

2LZ

Well travelled
Location
Volcano, CA
Okay, will try to do it myself also in the future. About the noise you are right, at certain rev's you may think the piston or other parts will leave it's 'body' . You mean a hard somewhat metal sound like using a hammer on a piece of metal. My Scram makes the same noise and my girlfriend's Meteor 350 Dito. So I think it's normal and we have to get used to it.
I have it more or less under control by avoiding those high rev's. Maybe there's a thread in this forum about what noises are normal?
Greetings from Germany.
Thanks for confirming that this is the way these things sound. I was just a little shocked as my Interceptor 650 spins like a sewing machine. I did find YT vids about the lean setup for emissions, pinging and knocking. That has to be it. Here in CA, they choke everything down to pass CARB. I'm hoping the post-300 mile service mods will help. I have the PoweRage slip-on coming so that will help mask it.
I neglected to answer your question on what material I used to insulate the bash plate. It was this nice packing material (heavy, rigid foam) out of a Harbor Freight parts washer box. The material looked very useful so I kept it. ......and useful it became!
 

2LZ

Well travelled
Location
Volcano, CA
As comfy on the road the huge rubber inserts in the pegs were, I removed them for grip. Didn't notice much, if any more vibes with them removed.
 

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2LZ

Well travelled
Location
Volcano, CA
I did the "reversible tail tidy" ala Ph1234450 on page 2 of this thread. Cleaned it up nice. Got small blinkers coming so should sharpen it up even more.
 

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2LZ

Well travelled
Location
Volcano, CA
LED's came in today! Out with the Safety Sam's. Easy job but yes, they hyper-flash. Not really a big deal living where I do, but I'll have to locate the flasher and try to find an LED unit, just because. I think the bobbed tail looks sweet. I'd like to thank Ph1234450 for the inspiration.
 

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McQueen216

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Location
PacNW
I’ve held off on doing any sort of tail tidy… until I can figure out if I can get ahold of something like this [link] exhaust. It would prob just mean relocating the plate off to the side…
 

2LZ

Well travelled
Location
Volcano, CA
Added the DNA kit today. Another slight difference. Loving this bike. It handles fantastic and sticks like glue in our twisties.
 

Steeze_train

Getting there...
Location
United States
I did the "reversible tail tidy" ala Ph1234450 on page 2 of this thread. Cleaned it up nice. Got small blinkers coming so should sharpen it up even more.

Was the lil tidy that easy? Been thinking of doing this. Kind of scared to drill new holes or anything lmao.
 

2LZ

Well travelled
Location
Volcano, CA
Was the lil tidy that easy? Been thinking of doing this. Kind of scared to drill new holes or anything lmao.
The only pieces that suffered any holes were ones I pulled from my bracket bin. The bike and its parts remain unscathed, hence, completely reversible if I grow tired of it.
 

2LZ

Well travelled
Location
Volcano, CA
Delkevic header came in today. Installed immediately.
Here's the good and bad.

The bad: Not a straightforward fit, but it was for up to 2021 I believe. It had an extra mounting tab on it that poked under the bike, that my Scram head pipe did not have. I could see where it was supposed to bolt on, but the hole was a good half inch off. Sawzall action took care of that, since my stock head pipe didn't have it anyway.
The shape wasn't exactly the same, but dang close and the 02 sensor screwed right in. In order to get the header pipe to seal to the exhaust gasket/o-ring flush, it hung a tad low. To hang it "stress free and sealed", I had to fix a bracket to fit the PoweRage muffler. I didn't test fit the stock muffler to see if it fit differently. Regarding the slightly lower muffler, I went corner carving today and it didn't scrape or drag so it's clear. That said, I will take it off the have my local muffler shop tweak it a little to get it hung without a bracket. No biggy.

The good:....and there was a lot. The thing looks super-clean without the discolored cat bump. It really helped the appearance of the smaller PoweRage muffler. Speaking of which, the muffler now sounds better, deeper. More resonance. Not so "farty" that I complained about. You can definitely tell the bike is breathing better now. The other bonus is, I know another member here said their bike ran worse with it, not so in my case. Bottom through mid-range has a nice sweep now and better throttle response. More power? I doubt it, but it acts better and more responsive. The other big bonus I noticed? That "post-mid-range Death Rattle" I've been trying to stifle has diminished 70+%. I doubt the cause have gone away, but apparently the cat seemed to be accentuating the noise somehow, is the only thing I can think of. The bike is smoother and better across the board now, plus less mechanically noisy. All good things. Mind you, this may not be your case if you install one, just what I noticed right from the get-go.

I've now done the PoweRange muffler, and yesterday the DNA filter. Both of those helped the bike "over stock form" in areas. The header seemed to bring them all together.
 

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2LZ

Well travelled
Location
Volcano, CA
So I wrenched on the Scram today and took the Delkavec head pipe to the muffler shop.
I said, "I need this to bend at the lower section of the front bend about a scoshe.....so it brings the horizontal pipe up enough to be flush with the motor, but not hit the peg."
So my muffler shop guy (oak tree crotch) said, "I can do this."
So, after a few tweeks in the crotch of a nice local oak, the pipe now fits perfectly with no need for brackets. Never doubt Mother Nature.
 

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Overdrive

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Staff member
Location
Southern UK
You could advise delkevic about the need to adjust the bend - then everyone using it could benefit from a better fitting product.
did you use a new crush gasket in the head? My standard down pipe was touching the frame in the foot peg area, and when I tried to move it the pipe wouldn’t seal in the head, however a new crush washer solved it (from a cbr 1000 iirc) - it appears genuine RE are in short supply in the UK.
 
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